Real Real TV Prices
The big guessing game in the CE space is whether the break in TV panel prices will give TV brands the ability to offer substantial discounts during the holidays and stimulate TV set sales, which have been and are expected to be lackluster. Component shortages, inventory prices, transportation bottlenecks, and TV panel prices all play into such calculations, and while each brand has their own issues, we took a look at the US CPI (un-seasonally adjusted TV index) and how that relates to actual aggregate TV panel prices to get some understanding of where we are in the cycle, and the possibility for a better than expected holiday season.
The simplest comparison was the CPI TV Index vs. the aggregated price of TV panels since January 2020, as shown in Fig. 1. As can be seen, the TV CPI index lags the index by about a month, with TV panel prices peaking in July and the TV CPI peaking in August, however the TV CPI did not follow the rising TV panel prices seen in the latter half of 2020. It was not until the beginning of 2021 that the TV CPI began to track TV panel price increases and while the more recent TV CPI data better reflects the change in TV panel prices that began in September, we expect the TV CPI will take longer to readjust to lower panel prices. TV panel prices have declined 35.3% from their peak while the TV CPI has declined less than a percent, and while this is not a real comparison as the bases are so far apart, at least from a visual point of view, they seem to be tracking more closely over the last three months than in the last 18 months.
But when it comes to consumers, TV panel prices and the TV CPI are far less relevant than what they see when walking into Best Buy (BBY) or are checking TV prices on Amazon (AMZN). While underneath the loose budgets that consumers will try to hold to when viewing possible TV or other CE choices lies wage inflation/deflation, a smattering of knowledge, much brand hype, and a desire not to buy something that is overpriced, if something looks like a good bargain, it attracts attention. In order to see whether TV panel price reductions and TV CPI decreases have made an impact on ‘real’ TV prices, we took a simple survey. We traced the pricing for the 10 top selling TVs at Best Buy to measure where they currently stand relative to their high and low points. Since Best Buy does not provide historic data, we used pricing on Amazon to trace pricing, and while this was more often 3rd party pricing, rather than Amazon’s, it does give a reasonable representation of the pricing cycles of these TVs.
Just to clarify the data set, the top ten ‘Best Sellers’ at Best Buy consisted of five Samsung (005930.KS) TVs, two LG (066570.KS) TVs, and three Insignia TVs, which are Best Buy’s house brand. Of the 10, three were 2021 models, five were 2020 models, and two were 2018 (!) models, with one of the LG models being an OLED TV. In terms of TV size, there were two 75” and two 65” TVs, with the rest with one each (75”, 58”, 55”, 40”, 32”, 24”), with only two being 4K TVs, five being UHD resolution, and the remaining ones HD. The average price for the ten models was $585 on Best Buy, although leaving out the OLED TV brings that average down to $450. Prices on Amazon were typically equal to or higher relative to Best Buy, with the average on Amazon 8.9% above Best Buy, but much of the differences came from the two 70” models, which were 29.2% and 66.3% higher on Amazon, likely because they are in relatively short supply.
What was most interesting was that while the Amazon prices were down 22.5% from their high points on average and up 17.8% on average from their low points, the current prices of the ten sets on Amazon were 8.9% higher than the current Best Buy prices and the current Best Buy prices were only 0.2% higher than the average lowest price point (historically) on Amazon. If nothing else, it points to the fact that the ‘best sellers’ at Best Buy are better deals than even the lowest historic prices on Amazon. While the data proves the point that it is certainly better to shop for bargains on-line, particularly among Best Buy’s ‘top sellers’, than to walk into a store and wander through aisles of TVs with a salesman, it does not give any indication as to how much discounting is being done across the broad spectrum of TV sets sold in the US, despite the ‘previous price’ listed for each set at Best Buy. We believe those ‘previous prices’ should be ignored, considering some of those sets were over two years old and have seen many short pricing peaks and valleys that had little to do with actual consumer prices.
We also looked at the 10 most and least expensive models offered at Best Buy, however, most were not available on Amazon and price tracking data was therefore not available but just in passing, the average price of the 10 most expensive TVs at Best Buy was $17,155, with the top of the range set by a Samsung 98” 8K set at $60,000 and the least expensive a Samsung 85” 4K TV at $5,500. At the other end of the spectrum the 10 lowest priced TV sets at Best Buy averaged $121.30, with the most expensive being a $160 Toshiba 32” TV and the least expensive being an Insignia 19” TV at $80.
All in, it will take a much wider sample to see whether the impact of TV panel price decreases will be able to work their way to consumers by the end of the year. As set producers built inventory against a fear of continuing component shortages, they built in months of higher cost inventory that still has to be worked through or written off at the end of the year. With three months of lower cost TV panel inventory, the cost average will come down, but given the multitude of other factors, particularly raw materials, semiconductors, and logistics, we expect much of the effects of TV panel price reductions will be seen in 1Q, making the post-holiday period a more likely place to be looking for real TV bargains. TV panel producers are already seeing the effects of the price declines and have begun to lower utilization rates, which will continue to pressure y/y comparisons, but the bigger question is whether TV set brands will keep any margin they gain, or pass it on to consumers to move units. Given the margin issues that have faced TV set brands for much of this year, we expect the former but hope for the latter.
The simplest comparison was the CPI TV Index vs. the aggregated price of TV panels since January 2020, as shown in Fig. 1. As can be seen, the TV CPI index lags the index by about a month, with TV panel prices peaking in July and the TV CPI peaking in August, however the TV CPI did not follow the rising TV panel prices seen in the latter half of 2020. It was not until the beginning of 2021 that the TV CPI began to track TV panel price increases and while the more recent TV CPI data better reflects the change in TV panel prices that began in September, we expect the TV CPI will take longer to readjust to lower panel prices. TV panel prices have declined 35.3% from their peak while the TV CPI has declined less than a percent, and while this is not a real comparison as the bases are so far apart, at least from a visual point of view, they seem to be tracking more closely over the last three months than in the last 18 months.
But when it comes to consumers, TV panel prices and the TV CPI are far less relevant than what they see when walking into Best Buy (BBY) or are checking TV prices on Amazon (AMZN). While underneath the loose budgets that consumers will try to hold to when viewing possible TV or other CE choices lies wage inflation/deflation, a smattering of knowledge, much brand hype, and a desire not to buy something that is overpriced, if something looks like a good bargain, it attracts attention. In order to see whether TV panel price reductions and TV CPI decreases have made an impact on ‘real’ TV prices, we took a simple survey. We traced the pricing for the 10 top selling TVs at Best Buy to measure where they currently stand relative to their high and low points. Since Best Buy does not provide historic data, we used pricing on Amazon to trace pricing, and while this was more often 3rd party pricing, rather than Amazon’s, it does give a reasonable representation of the pricing cycles of these TVs.
Just to clarify the data set, the top ten ‘Best Sellers’ at Best Buy consisted of five Samsung (005930.KS) TVs, two LG (066570.KS) TVs, and three Insignia TVs, which are Best Buy’s house brand. Of the 10, three were 2021 models, five were 2020 models, and two were 2018 (!) models, with one of the LG models being an OLED TV. In terms of TV size, there were two 75” and two 65” TVs, with the rest with one each (75”, 58”, 55”, 40”, 32”, 24”), with only two being 4K TVs, five being UHD resolution, and the remaining ones HD. The average price for the ten models was $585 on Best Buy, although leaving out the OLED TV brings that average down to $450. Prices on Amazon were typically equal to or higher relative to Best Buy, with the average on Amazon 8.9% above Best Buy, but much of the differences came from the two 70” models, which were 29.2% and 66.3% higher on Amazon, likely because they are in relatively short supply.
What was most interesting was that while the Amazon prices were down 22.5% from their high points on average and up 17.8% on average from their low points, the current prices of the ten sets on Amazon were 8.9% higher than the current Best Buy prices and the current Best Buy prices were only 0.2% higher than the average lowest price point (historically) on Amazon. If nothing else, it points to the fact that the ‘best sellers’ at Best Buy are better deals than even the lowest historic prices on Amazon. While the data proves the point that it is certainly better to shop for bargains on-line, particularly among Best Buy’s ‘top sellers’, than to walk into a store and wander through aisles of TVs with a salesman, it does not give any indication as to how much discounting is being done across the broad spectrum of TV sets sold in the US, despite the ‘previous price’ listed for each set at Best Buy. We believe those ‘previous prices’ should be ignored, considering some of those sets were over two years old and have seen many short pricing peaks and valleys that had little to do with actual consumer prices.
We also looked at the 10 most and least expensive models offered at Best Buy, however, most were not available on Amazon and price tracking data was therefore not available but just in passing, the average price of the 10 most expensive TVs at Best Buy was $17,155, with the top of the range set by a Samsung 98” 8K set at $60,000 and the least expensive a Samsung 85” 4K TV at $5,500. At the other end of the spectrum the 10 lowest priced TV sets at Best Buy averaged $121.30, with the most expensive being a $160 Toshiba 32” TV and the least expensive being an Insignia 19” TV at $80.
All in, it will take a much wider sample to see whether the impact of TV panel price decreases will be able to work their way to consumers by the end of the year. As set producers built inventory against a fear of continuing component shortages, they built in months of higher cost inventory that still has to be worked through or written off at the end of the year. With three months of lower cost TV panel inventory, the cost average will come down, but given the multitude of other factors, particularly raw materials, semiconductors, and logistics, we expect much of the effects of TV panel price reductions will be seen in 1Q, making the post-holiday period a more likely place to be looking for real TV bargains. TV panel producers are already seeing the effects of the price declines and have begun to lower utilization rates, which will continue to pressure y/y comparisons, but the bigger question is whether TV set brands will keep any margin they gain, or pass it on to consumers to move units. Given the margin issues that have faced TV set brands for much of this year, we expect the former but hope for the latter.
CPI TV Index vs. TV Panel Price - Source: SCMR LLC, Bureau of Labor Statistics
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