Samsung Mini-LED/QD & QD/OLED Pre-Black Friday Pricing
As we have been doing since May of 2021, we check pricing on Samsung’s (005920.KS) Mini-LED/QD and QD only TVs to map how macro, seasonal, and holidays affect pricing on this category, particularly as it is a relatively new category and one toward the high-end of the TV pricing. We have also been tracking Samsung’s QD/OLED TV pricing since it appeared in May of this year, an even more distinct product type that only Samsung Display (pvt) is able to produce currently. While we don’t check prices for all on a regular schedule, we try to work toward specific events or holidays, and with Black Friday only two days away, we thought it helpful to see whether Samsung is being naughty or nice to its high-end TV customers.
2021 Models
As Samsung is slowly disengaging from its 2021 line, no longer offering 2021 8K Mini-LED/QD sets (900A & 800A series) on its website, along with eliminating one of last year’s Mini-LED/QD 4K series (85A) and one quantum dot only series (80A), Samsung has thinned last year’s models, but seems to have little rhyme or reason as to how they are pricing the remaining 2021 Mini-LED/QD 4K line over the last three weeks. They did cut the price of last year’s massive 98” Mini-LED/QD 4K TV from $15,000 to $13,000 (↓13.3%), which they have only done one other time (during the July 4th holiday) this year, and reduced prices on all but one of last year’s Mini-LED/QD 4K sets, putting 4 of the 5 Mini-LED/QD 4K sets from last year at their lowest price points since their initial release last year. Samsung lowered prices on 3 of the 13 2021 quantum dot only 4K sets (70A & 60A), putting 5 in that group at their lowest ever price and one (55” 4K QD only) at its highest price. Overall, on all the remaining Samsung 2021 Mini-LED/QD and QD only sets, prices declined by 3.9% since our last check on 10/31.
2022 Models
Samsung was a bit more aggressive with pricing on this year’s models but seems to have abandon promoting its 8K Mini-LED/QD line (900B & 800B) whose prices have remained flat over the last month. As we have previously noted, there are issues with 8K sets in Europe starting in March of 2023, data suggests that 8K sets have been poor sellers so far this year, and the macro environment is less conducive to such high-priced models that offer little image improvement give the lack of 8K content, so there seems to be little incentive for Samsung to discount the sets, other than to dump stale inventory in the retail channel.
That said, Samsung cut prices substantially on high-end Mini-LED/QD sets (95B), with 3 of the 4 in that line dropping by between 20.0% and 44.4% and putting that group down 48.9% from their initial prices set in May. Samsung also lowered prices between 5.2% and 11.1% on the lower-priced quantum dot only line (60B), leaving most of the remaining lines flat for the period. On an overall basis, Samsung cut prices across this year’s 8K and 4K Mini-LED/QD and QD only lines by 5.3% for the period, putting the entire 2022 line down 33.8% from initial prices set 224 days ago.
However Samsung seems to set price declines during the year more in order to reach a specific price point for the holiday season than to stimulate sales for a particular holiday, as model pricing for this year’s line reached the same dollar price point at Black Friday as last year, despite a lower initial price. This puts the onus on manufacturing to maintain margins by lowering costs at the same rate as set prices reductions. We expect this was a difficult task this year but not an impossible one, as panel prices declined while semiconductor and other component prices increased early in the year. That said, component costs are a bit better now, so there is some hope that manufacturing could lower costs enough to maintain margins, but that leaves little wiggle room on prices if Samsung wants to move excess TV set inventory.
QD/OLED
Samsung’s QD/OLED TV line, which consists of a 65” and a 55” model, continues to see price declines, now down 27.6% from its initial price for the 65” models and a decline of 32.4% for the 55” model, based on Amazon (AMZN) pricing. As this is the first year such sets are available there is no comparative data, which means Samsung is flying blind with pricing and is competing against Sony (SNE), whose QD/OLED set prices remains at their original list price of $2,499 (55”) and $2,999 (65”). Samsung seems far more willing to find a price point that consumers find attractive than Sony, and prices for both models on Amazon, as shown in Figure 3, are close to the discounts that Samsung has offered on its company site.
The QD/OLED TV product comes at a difficult time given the macro concerns that are troubling large economies across the globe, but Samsung seems willing to test its price elasticity despite the weak environment. Samsung does have a considerable stake in the success of the product considering affiliate Samsung Display has chosen it as their step toward a mass produced OLED TV and eliminated its LCD TV panel production capacity, but the limited production capacity that is currently available to SDC is not enough for parent Samsung to make it a cornerstone of its premium TV line. This leads to a decision by Samsung as to whether they are willing to commit to QD/OLED and ok the SDC funding to build additional QD/OLED capacity, which needs to be made relatively soon if that capacity is not to miss the 2023 holiday season. We see the discounting as a necessary step toward enhancing Samsung’s understanding of consumer response to QD/OLED and moving the decision-making process forward.
While this has been a disappointing year for TV set sales, especially against the economic backdrop, we are a bit more optimistic about 2023 in that we expect component pricing to continue to decline and TV panel prices to be more stable than this year. That said, consumer buying power is declining so it is hard to find an impetus for a demand driven scenario in 2023, but we expect at least a more stable TV market, making it a bit easier for those who need to make billion-dollar decisions about capacity. We are keeping our expectations low, but the glass seems slightly more full than empty, with the emphasis on slightly.
2021 Models
As Samsung is slowly disengaging from its 2021 line, no longer offering 2021 8K Mini-LED/QD sets (900A & 800A series) on its website, along with eliminating one of last year’s Mini-LED/QD 4K series (85A) and one quantum dot only series (80A), Samsung has thinned last year’s models, but seems to have little rhyme or reason as to how they are pricing the remaining 2021 Mini-LED/QD 4K line over the last three weeks. They did cut the price of last year’s massive 98” Mini-LED/QD 4K TV from $15,000 to $13,000 (↓13.3%), which they have only done one other time (during the July 4th holiday) this year, and reduced prices on all but one of last year’s Mini-LED/QD 4K sets, putting 4 of the 5 Mini-LED/QD 4K sets from last year at their lowest price points since their initial release last year. Samsung lowered prices on 3 of the 13 2021 quantum dot only 4K sets (70A & 60A), putting 5 in that group at their lowest ever price and one (55” 4K QD only) at its highest price. Overall, on all the remaining Samsung 2021 Mini-LED/QD and QD only sets, prices declined by 3.9% since our last check on 10/31.
2022 Models
Samsung was a bit more aggressive with pricing on this year’s models but seems to have abandon promoting its 8K Mini-LED/QD line (900B & 800B) whose prices have remained flat over the last month. As we have previously noted, there are issues with 8K sets in Europe starting in March of 2023, data suggests that 8K sets have been poor sellers so far this year, and the macro environment is less conducive to such high-priced models that offer little image improvement give the lack of 8K content, so there seems to be little incentive for Samsung to discount the sets, other than to dump stale inventory in the retail channel.
That said, Samsung cut prices substantially on high-end Mini-LED/QD sets (95B), with 3 of the 4 in that line dropping by between 20.0% and 44.4% and putting that group down 48.9% from their initial prices set in May. Samsung also lowered prices between 5.2% and 11.1% on the lower-priced quantum dot only line (60B), leaving most of the remaining lines flat for the period. On an overall basis, Samsung cut prices across this year’s 8K and 4K Mini-LED/QD and QD only lines by 5.3% for the period, putting the entire 2022 line down 33.8% from initial prices set 224 days ago.
However Samsung seems to set price declines during the year more in order to reach a specific price point for the holiday season than to stimulate sales for a particular holiday, as model pricing for this year’s line reached the same dollar price point at Black Friday as last year, despite a lower initial price. This puts the onus on manufacturing to maintain margins by lowering costs at the same rate as set prices reductions. We expect this was a difficult task this year but not an impossible one, as panel prices declined while semiconductor and other component prices increased early in the year. That said, component costs are a bit better now, so there is some hope that manufacturing could lower costs enough to maintain margins, but that leaves little wiggle room on prices if Samsung wants to move excess TV set inventory.
QD/OLED
Samsung’s QD/OLED TV line, which consists of a 65” and a 55” model, continues to see price declines, now down 27.6% from its initial price for the 65” models and a decline of 32.4% for the 55” model, based on Amazon (AMZN) pricing. As this is the first year such sets are available there is no comparative data, which means Samsung is flying blind with pricing and is competing against Sony (SNE), whose QD/OLED set prices remains at their original list price of $2,499 (55”) and $2,999 (65”). Samsung seems far more willing to find a price point that consumers find attractive than Sony, and prices for both models on Amazon, as shown in Figure 3, are close to the discounts that Samsung has offered on its company site.
The QD/OLED TV product comes at a difficult time given the macro concerns that are troubling large economies across the globe, but Samsung seems willing to test its price elasticity despite the weak environment. Samsung does have a considerable stake in the success of the product considering affiliate Samsung Display has chosen it as their step toward a mass produced OLED TV and eliminated its LCD TV panel production capacity, but the limited production capacity that is currently available to SDC is not enough for parent Samsung to make it a cornerstone of its premium TV line. This leads to a decision by Samsung as to whether they are willing to commit to QD/OLED and ok the SDC funding to build additional QD/OLED capacity, which needs to be made relatively soon if that capacity is not to miss the 2023 holiday season. We see the discounting as a necessary step toward enhancing Samsung’s understanding of consumer response to QD/OLED and moving the decision-making process forward.
While this has been a disappointing year for TV set sales, especially against the economic backdrop, we are a bit more optimistic about 2023 in that we expect component pricing to continue to decline and TV panel prices to be more stable than this year. That said, consumer buying power is declining so it is hard to find an impetus for a demand driven scenario in 2023, but we expect at least a more stable TV market, making it a bit easier for those who need to make billion-dollar decisions about capacity. We are keeping our expectations low, but the glass seems slightly more full than empty, with the emphasis on slightly.
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